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What barristers can raise early, and what can be done later.\\r\\n\\r\\nA judgment\\'s life after the case ends\\r\\nI should say at the outset that I\u2019m not a lawyer. I advise private clients and executives on how they appear online, so I come to this subject from the client\u2019s side of the screen. What follows describes what tends to happen to people after a judgment is passed down. What the law requires, and what you should advise, are matters for you, and I have left them there.\\r\\nThe subject is quite simple to state. A judgment is written for the parties, the court and the profession. Once published, it\u2019s already by a much larger audience, for much longer, and increasingly by software that summarises it.\\r\\nHow a judgment reaches the public\\r\\nJudgments are no longer hard to find. Find Case Law, the National Archives\\' summaries service, launched in April 2022 with the stated aims of giving the public free access to judgments and preserving them permanently as digital public records. [1] It sits alongside BAILII, which by 2022 had offered free access for more than twenty years, and the commercial publishers.[1]\\r\\nOnce a judgment is published, it rarely stays in one place. Free services, commercial databases, news reports, commentary and law firm summary can all carry it or describe it, and some of those will be picked up by search engines. How each is indexed varies, so I would check rather than assume.\\r\\nWhat the client sees in search results\\r\\nFor a private client, this means that a judgment or a write-up of it appears when someone looks up their name. That someone might be a prospective business partner, a lender, a new employer, a journalist or a neighbour.\\r\\nThe judgment might be accurate and fair, and decided in the client\u2019s favour. It\u2019s still a long, detailed account of a difficult period in their life, written in terms the reader might not follow.\\r\\nWhat AI assistants add\\r\\nAI assistance adds another layer. A person who once strolled through search results might now simply ask an assistant for a short account of someone. I would not claim to know how any specific assistant selects or weighs its sources, and they differ.\\r\\nBut material that\u2019s publicly available online is plainly within their reach, and in the nature of summaries, nuance goes out first. A finding on one narrow issue can end up as a sentence about the person. A claim that failed can sound like an allegation that stuck.\\r\\nWhat clients rarely understand before trial\\r\\nMost of the private clients come to a hearing thinking about the results. Very few have been asked to think about the record. Three points seem to be missed more than any others.\\r\\nA public hearing means a lasting record\\r\\nCPR 39.2 sets the general rule that hearings are in public, and a hearing might not be held in private simply because the parties consent. [2] Clients usually assume the matter is between the parties and the judge. In a practical sense, that\u2019s true only until the judgment is published.\\r\\nWinning does not remove it\\r\\nThe judgment in a case where the client won is no less searchable than one they lost. The facts that had to be set out to reach the result are still set out. Clients who win are sometimes surprised to find that the document says as much as it would have done if they had lost.\\r\\nAnonymity has to be sought at the time\\r\\nThe rule on non-disclosure of identity is worded narrowly: The court should order it if, and only if, it considers it necessary to secure the complete administration of justice and to protect the person\u2019s interests. [2] That is a question for the live case.\\r\\nNT1 and NT2 v Google shows what it can possibly look like when it\\'s dealt earliest. The claimants were anonymised so that the proceedings would not give the information the very publicity they wished to limit, and the judge prepared separate private judgments containing details that could identify them.[3]\\r\\nI mention it only to illustrate the point about timing. A client who raises anonymity for the first time after judgment is in a different position, and I would leave you to say how different.\\r\\nWhat can and cannot be done afterwards\\r\\nA client who can contact us after the event usually wants to know whether the judgment can be taken. The honest answer is the judgment itself stays where it is, and the options are narrower and less certain than most people hope.\\r\\nAnonymisation after publication\\r\\nThis is usually the first option clients inquire about, and it\\'s your territory rather than mine. My knowledge is that courts attach considerable weight to open justice, so clients should not be told it\u2019s simply a matter of asking. Regardless, an application is worth making, is for counsel to say.\\r\\nDelisting requests to search engines\\r\\nDelisting is a totally different thing. The origin is Google Spain, decided by the Court of Justice of the EU in 2014, where the Grand Chamber held that individuals could ask a search engine to remove results from a search on their name that were inadequate, irrelevant or excessive, even where the underlying publication was unlawful.[4]\\r\\nEnglish courts considered the idea in NT1 and NT2 v Google in 2018. NT2\\'s claim succeeded and NT1\\'s did not.[3] I find the pairing useful because it shows how dependent on the facts the exercise is.\\r\\nThe judge also noted that successful delisting doesn\u2019t remove the information from the public record. 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That\u2019s their decision, and it\u2019s better made early.\\r\\nQuestions counsel might ask at the outset\\r\\nIf you search your own name today, what comes up, and are you comfortable with it?\\r\\nWould a public judgment about this dispute affect your work, your family or your plans in five years\\' time?\\r\\nIs there anything in this case that you would not want a stranger to find?\\r\\nIf you win, would you still be comfortable with the judgment being read in full online?\\r\\nWould you like to talk about anonymity or settlement before we go further?\\r\\nNone of this changes the case. It changes what the client knows when they decide to go ahead.\\r\\nA record clients can plan for\\r\\nA judgment will always be a public document, and I don\u2019t suggest otherwise. My point is narrower. Clients cope well with a record they expected and badly with one they did not. If counsel can open that conversation early, the client can weigh the cost of a public hearing before it\u2019s incurred, rather than discover it later in a search result. That looks like a small thing to ask.\\r\\nReferences\\r\\n1. John Sheridan, \\\"Find Case Law: six months on\\\", Internet for Lawyers Newsletter, 30 September 2022. https:\/\/www.infolaw.co.uk\/newsletter\/2022\/09\/find-case-law-six-months-on\/\\r\\n\\r\\n2. Civil Procedure Rules, Part 39, rule 39.2 (Ministry of Justice). https:\/\/www.justice.gov.uk\/courts\/procedure-rules\/civil\/rules\/part39\\r\\n\\r\\n3. NT1 & NT2 v Google LLC [2018] EWHC 799 (QB), Find Case Law, The National Archives. https:\/\/caselaw.nationalarchives.gov.uk\/ewhc\/qb\/2018\/799\\r\\n\\r\\n4. 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What barristers can raise early, and what can be done later.\r\n\r\nA judgment&#039;s life after the case ends\r\nI should say at the outset that I&rsquo;m not a lawyer. I advise private clients and executives on how they appear online, so I come to this subject from the client&rsquo;s side of the screen. What follows describes what tends to happen to people after a judgment is passed down. What the law requires, and what you should advise, are matters for you, and I have left them there.\r\nThe subject is quite simple to state. A judgment is written for the parties, the court and the profession. Once published, it&rsquo;s already by a much larger audience, for much longer, and increasingly by software that summarises it.\r\nHow a judgment reaches the public\r\nJudgments are no longer hard to find. Find Case Law, the National Archives&#039; summaries service, launched in April 2022 with the stated aims of giving the public free access to judgments and preserving them permanently as digital public records. [1] It sits alongside BAILII, which by 2022 had offered free access for more than twenty years, and the commercial publishers.[1]\r\nOnce a judgment is published, it rarely stays in one place. Free services, commercial databases, news reports, commentary and law firm summary can all carry it or describe it, and some of those will be picked up by search engines. How each is indexed varies, so I would check rather than assume.\r\nWhat the client sees in search results\r\nFor a private client, this means that a judgment or a write-up of it appears when someone looks up their name. That someone might be a prospective business partner, a lender, a new employer, a journalist or a neighbour.\r\nThe judgment might be accurate and fair, and decided in the client&rsquo;s favour. It&rsquo;s still a long, detailed account of a difficult period in their life, written in terms the reader might not follow.\r\nWhat AI assistants add\r\nAI assistance adds another layer. A person who once strolled through search results might now simply ask an assistant for a short account of someone. I would not claim to know how any specific assistant selects or weighs its sources, and they differ.\r\nBut material that&rsquo;s publicly available online is plainly within their reach, and in the nature of summaries, nuance goes out first. A finding on one narrow issue can end up as a sentence about the person. A claim that failed can sound like an allegation that stuck.\r\nWhat clients rarely understand before trial\r\nMost of the private clients come to a hearing thinking about the results. Very few have been asked to think about the record. Three points seem to be missed more than any others.\r\nA public hearing means a lasting record\r\nCPR 39.2 sets the general rule that hearings are in public, and a hearing might not be held in private simply because the parties consent. [2] Clients usually assume the matter is between the parties and the judge. In a practical sense, that&rsquo;s true only until the judgment is published.\r\nWinning does not remove it\r\nThe judgment in a case where the client won is no less searchable than one they lost. The facts that had to be set out to reach the result are still set out. Clients who win are sometimes surprised to find that the document says as much as it would have done if they had lost.\r\nAnonymity has to be sought at the time\r\nThe rule on non-disclosure of identity is worded narrowly: The court should order it if, and only if, it considers it necessary to secure the complete administration of justice and to protect the person&rsquo;s interests. [2] That is a question for the live case.\r\nNT1 and NT2 v Google shows what it can possibly look like when it&#039;s dealt earliest. The claimants were anonymised so that the proceedings would not give the information the very publicity they wished to limit, and the judge prepared separate private judgments containing details that could identify them.[3]\r\nI mention it only to illustrate the point about timing. A client who raises anonymity for the first time after judgment is in a different position, and I would leave you to say how different.\r\nWhat can and cannot be done afterwards\r\nA client who can contact us after the event usually wants to know whether the judgment can be taken. The honest answer is the judgment itself stays where it is, and the options are narrower and less certain than most people hope.\r\nAnonymisation after publication\r\nThis is usually the first option clients inquire about, and it&#039;s your territory rather than mine. My knowledge is that courts attach considerable weight to open justice, so clients should not be told it&rsquo;s simply a matter of asking. Regardless, an application is worth making, is for counsel to say.\r\nDelisting requests to search engines\r\nDelisting is a totally different thing. The origin is Google Spain, decided by the Court of Justice of the EU in 2014, where the Grand Chamber held that individuals could ask a search engine to remove results from a search on their name that were inadequate, irrelevant or excessive, even where the underlying publication was unlawful.[4]\r\nEnglish courts considered the idea in NT1 and NT2 v Google in 2018. NT2&#039;s claim succeeded and NT1&#039;s did not.[3] I find the pairing useful because it shows how dependent on the facts the exercise is.\r\nThe judge also noted that successful delisting doesn&rsquo;t remove the information from the public record. It means the link shouldn&rsquo;t be returned on a search of the claimant&rsquo;s name, and the information might stay available through other searches. [3]\r\nThe legal framework has moved since 2018, and you will know it far better than I do. What I can describe is the client&rsquo;s experience.  Delisting concerns names and search results, and it&rsquo;s not guaranteed, and the judgment stays where it&rsquo;s.\r\nI would not assume that a delisting from one search engine changes what an AI assistant says, and clients should not be promised that it will.\r\nPublishing accurate context\r\nThe third route is the least dramatic and, I think, the most usually overlooked. This may be a short, factual statement on the client&rsquo;s own site, a reputable outlet saying what the case was about, how it was decided and what has happened since. \r\nIt cannot remove a judgment. It can give a reader, and a summarising tool, a second accurate source to set beside it.\r\nIt needs care. A statement that sounds aggrieved, or that appears to dispute the court&rsquo;s findings, can attract more attention than the judgment ever did. Counsel should look at it before it goes up.\r\nWhy to raise it early\r\nTiming is the reason\r\nBarristers are well kept to raise this because of timing. The options that are clearly open to a client are mostly open before or during the case. Afterwards, they narrow to routes that are slower and less certain, and a client who learns that from a search result tends to feel they should have been told.\r\nI am not suggesting a lecture in an already full conference. A question or two at the outset is enough. It lets the client decide with their eyes open whether to proceed, whether to settle, and whether to raise anonymity while the case is live.\r\nSome will decide the record doesn&rsquo;t matter to them. That&rsquo;s their decision, and it&rsquo;s better made early.\r\nQuestions counsel might ask at the outset\r\nIf you search your own name today, what comes up, and are you comfortable with it?\r\nWould a public judgment about this dispute affect your work, your family or your plans in five years&#039; time?\r\nIs there anything in this case that you would not want a stranger to find?\r\nIf you win, would you still be comfortable with the judgment being read in full online?\r\nWould you like to talk about anonymity or settlement before we go further?\r\nNone of this changes the case. It changes what the client knows when they decide to go ahead.\r\nA record clients can plan for\r\nA judgment will always be a public document, and I don&rsquo;t suggest otherwise. My point is narrower. Clients cope well with a record they expected and badly with one they did not. If counsel can open that conversation early, the client can weigh the cost of a public hearing before it&rsquo;s incurred, rather than discover it later in a search result. That looks like a small thing to ask.\r\nReferences\r\n1. John Sheridan, &quot;Find Case Law: six months on&quot;, Internet for Lawyers Newsletter, 30 September 2022. https:\/\/www.infolaw.co.uk\/newsletter\/2022\/09\/find-case-law-six-months-on\/\r\n\r\n2. Civil Procedure Rules, Part 39, rule 39.2 (Ministry of Justice). https:\/\/www.justice.gov.uk\/courts\/procedure-rules\/civil\/rules\/part39\r\n\r\n3. NT1 &amp; NT2 v Google LLC [2018] EWHC 799 (QB), Find Case Law, The National Archives. https:\/\/caselaw.nationalarchives.gov.uk\/ewhc\/qb\/2018\/799\r\n\r\n4. 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What the law requires, and what you should advise, are matters for you, and I have left them there.<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">The subject is quite simple to state. A judgment is written for the parties, the court and the profession. Once published, it&#8217;s already by a much larger audience, for much longer, and increasingly by software that summarises it.<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">How a judgment reaches the public<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">Judgments are no longer hard to find. Find Case Law, the National Archives&#039; summaries service, launched in April 2022 with the stated aims of giving the public free access to judgments and preserving them permanently as digital public records. [1] It sits alongside BAILII, which by 2022 had offered free access for more than twenty years, and the commercial publishers.[1]<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">Once a judgment is published, it rarely stays in one place. Free services, commercial databases, news reports, commentary and law firm summary can all carry it or describe it, and some of those will be picked up by search engines. How each is indexed varies, so I would check rather than assume.<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">What the client sees in search results<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">For a private client, this means that a judgment or a write-up of it appears when someone looks up their name. That someone might be a prospective business partner, a lender, a new employer, a journalist or a neighbour.<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">The judgment might be accurate and fair, and decided in the client&#8217;s favour. It&#8217;s still a long, detailed account of a difficult period in their life, written in terms the reader might not follow.<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">What AI assistants add<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">AI assistance adds another layer. A person who once strolled through search results might now simply ask an assistant for a short account of someone. I would not claim to know how any specific assistant selects or weighs its sources, and they differ.<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">But material that&#8217;s publicly available online is plainly within their reach, and in the nature of summaries, nuance goes out first. A finding on one narrow issue can end up as a sentence about the person. A claim that failed can sound like an allegation that stuck.<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">What clients rarely understand before trial<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">Most of the private clients come to a hearing thinking about the results. Very few have been asked to think about the record. Three points seem to be missed more than any others.<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">A public hearing means a lasting record<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">CPR 39.2 sets the general rule that hearings are in public, and a hearing might not be held in private simply because the parties consent. [2] Clients usually assume the matter is between the parties and the judge. In a practical sense, that&#8217;s true only until the judgment is published.<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">Winning does not remove it<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">The judgment in a case where the client won is no less searchable than one they lost. The facts that had to be set out to reach the result are still set out. Clients who win are sometimes surprised to find that the document says as much as it would have done if they had lost.<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">Anonymity has to be sought at the time<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">The rule on non-disclosure of identity is worded narrowly: The court should order it if, and only if, it considers it necessary to secure the complete administration of justice and to protect the person&#8217;s interests. [2] That is a question for the live case.<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">NT1 and NT2 v Google shows what it can possibly look like when it&#039;s dealt earliest. The claimants were anonymised so that the proceedings would not give the information the very publicity they wished to limit, and the judge prepared separate private judgments containing details that could identify them.[3]<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">I mention it only to illustrate the point about timing. A client who raises anonymity for the first time after judgment is in a different position, and I would leave you to say how different.<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">What can and cannot be done afterwards<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">A client who can contact us after the event usually wants to know whether the judgment can be taken. The honest answer is the judgment itself stays where it is, and the options are narrower and less certain than most people hope.<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">Anonymisation after publication<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">This is usually the first option clients inquire about, and it&#039;s your territory rather than mine. My knowledge is that courts attach considerable weight to open justice, so clients should not be told it&#8217;s simply a matter of asking. Regardless, an application is worth making, is for counsel to say.<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">Delisting requests to search engines<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">Delisting is a totally different thing. The origin is Google Spain, decided by the Court of Justice of the EU in 2014, where the Grand Chamber held that individuals could ask a search engine to remove results from a search on their name that were inadequate, irrelevant or excessive, even where the underlying publication was unlawful.[4]<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">English courts considered the idea in NT1 and NT2 v Google in 2018. NT2&#039;s claim succeeded and NT1&#039;s did not.[3] I find the pairing useful because it shows how dependent on the facts the exercise is.<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">The judge also noted that successful delisting doesn&#8217;t remove the information from the public record. It means the link shouldn&#8217;t be returned on a search of the claimant&#8217;s name, and the information might stay available through other searches. [3]<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">The legal framework has moved since 2018, and you will know it far better than I do. What I can describe is the client&#8217;s experience.  Delisting concerns names and search results, and it&#8217;s not guaranteed, and the judgment stays where it&#8217;s.<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">I would not assume that a delisting from one search engine changes what an AI assistant says, and clients should not be promised that it will.<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">Publishing accurate context<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">The third route is the least dramatic and, I think, the most usually overlooked. This may be a short, factual statement on the client&#8217;s own site, a reputable outlet saying what the case was about, how it was decided and what has happened since. <span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">It cannot remove a judgment. It can give a reader, and a summarising tool, a second accurate source to set beside it.<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">It needs care. A statement that sounds aggrieved, or that appears to dispute the court&#8217;s findings, can attract more attention than the judgment ever did. Counsel should look at it before it goes up.<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">Why to raise it early<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">Timing is the reason<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">Barristers are well kept to raise this because of timing. The options that are clearly open to a client are mostly open before or during the case. Afterwards, they narrow to routes that are slower and less certain, and a client who learns that from a search result tends to feel they should have been told.<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">I am not suggesting a lecture in an already full conference. A question or two at the outset is enough. It lets the client decide with their eyes open whether to proceed, whether to settle, and whether to raise anonymity while the case is live.<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">Some will decide the record doesn&#8217;t matter to them. That&#8217;s their decision, and it&#8217;s better made early.<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">Questions counsel might ask at the outset<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">If you search your own name today, what comes up, and are you comfortable with it?<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">Would a public judgment about this dispute affect your work, your family or your plans in five years&#039; time?<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">Is there anything in this case that you would not want a stranger to find?<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">If you win, would you still be comfortable with the judgment being read in full online?<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">Would you like to talk about anonymity or settlement before we go further?<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">None of this changes the case. It changes what the client knows when they decide to go ahead.<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">A record clients can plan for<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">A judgment will always be a public document, and I don&#8217;t suggest otherwise. My point is narrower. Clients cope well with a record they expected and badly with one they did not. If counsel can open that conversation early, the client can weigh the cost of a public hearing before it&#8217;s incurred, rather than discover it later in a search result. That looks like a small thing to ask.<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">References<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">1. John Sheridan, &quot;Find Case Law: six months on&quot;, Internet for Lawyers Newsletter, 30 September 2022. https:\/\/www.infolaw.co.uk\/newsletter\/2022\/09\/find-case-law-six-months-on\/<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\"><span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">2. Civil Procedure Rules, Part 39, rule 39.2 (Ministry of Justice). https:\/\/www.justice.gov.uk\/courts\/procedure-rules\/civil\/rules\/part39<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\"><span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">3. NT1 &amp; NT2 v Google LLC [2018] EWHC 799 (QB), Find Case Law, The National Archives. https:\/\/caselaw.nationalarchives.gov.uk\/ewhc\/qb\/2018\/799<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\"><span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">4. Google Spain SL v Agencia Espa&#241;ola de Protecci&#243;n de Datos, Case C-131\/12, CJEU (Grand Chamber), 13 May 2014, ECLI:EU:C:2014:317. https:\/\/eulawradar.com\/case-c-13112-google-spain-the-right-to-be-forgotten\/<span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\"><span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\"><span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\"><span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">&quot;Tony McChrystal is Managing Director of Pavesen, a specialist firm which advises private clients and executives on online reputation and privacy.&quot; <span class=\"sf-dump-default sf-dump-ns\">\\r\\n<\/span><\/span>\n    <span class=sf-dump-str title=\"9574 characters\">&quot;Tony McChrystal is Managing Director of Pavesen, a specialist firm which advises private clients and executives on online reputation and privacy.&quot; 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